Comments for America's only option is to love Muslim 'enemies' at http://www.independent.co.ug , comment 1 to 19 out of 19 comments http://www.independent.co.ug Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:41:24 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.independent.co.ug/column/comment/2281-americas-only-option-is-to-love-muslim-enemies#comment-34373 Recently some archaeologists in Gaza, I mean Giza, uncovered the following hieroglyphics. However, they could not decipher it. 911 ✡ ✈ ▌▌ Can you decipher it? If so, what does it mean? - Yunis Sun, 28 Nov 2010 01:47:54 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/column/comment/2281-americas-only-option-is-to-love-muslim-enemies#comment-22882 I happened to read the book and even had the previlage to meet this lady in Belgium last year. The experience of this lady is a very delicate case of religion entwined with culture. She has been mainly an advocate of the campaign againest female genital mitulation(FGM)which in Somalia is ruthlessly practised and is presented as a ritual supported by Islam(Which I believe is not a fact). I found her very soft spoken,respectiful and with a very touching story. - Gonzaga Ssenyondo Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:05:09 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/column/comment/2281-americas-only-option-is-to-love-muslim-enemies#comment-22821 On Bashir and Darfur, and Mamdani, read, more than once, the last chapter of the book: Responsibilty to Protect or Right to Punish. You will have to also visit the GOA website and confirm the death statistics, unfortunately you will not find statistics of intention. GOA is a government of America website on Accaountability. We will then advance judgment of our own and not pick the spreading notion of the town as preached by the Save Darfur Movt - Hassan Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:38:16 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/column/comment/2281-americas-only-option-is-to-love-muslim-enemies#comment-22795 I am an American who agrees with the author that more military adventures in the Islamic world will not make us safer. The scholarly research available to the everyone cleanly backs up what the author states: that the United States government actively supports and engages in state-sponsored terrorism and warfare. But I think the author is stretching Western misconceptions about Islam into something rather unintelligible. Awards and recognition of achievement are fairly balanced in the West, and just because some recipients are vocal critics of certain aspects of certain factions of Islam doesn't mean that Americans hate Muslims... - The Crackshot Crackpot Sun, 27 Dec 2009 05:37:43 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/column/comment/2281-americas-only-option-is-to-love-muslim-enemies#comment-22580 Mamdani explains away the conflict in Darfur by calling it Bashir's "own little war on terror." For a review of Saviors and Survivors that details Mamdani's exagerrated and distorted claims see: "When Killers Vecome Victims: Darfur in Context," http://bit.ly/8AwOzm. - Sean Brooks Tue, 22 Dec 2009 23:56:52 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/column/comment/2281-americas-only-option-is-to-love-muslim-enemies#comment-22521 No matter what the events of 9/11 created great animosity and worsened the already bad situation. I believe religious leaders on both sides should play a role to preach especially tolerance of people of different religions. The late pope was a good example. He gave land to muslims to build a mosque in Rome, the largest in Westen Europe. I hope muslims would one day be generous and tolerant enough to allow christians (hundreds of thousands living there) build churches in Saudi Arabia! Please, brothers I think it is easy to tell who hates who! - Paul Muwanga Sun, 20 Dec 2009 05:35:10 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/column/comment/2281-americas-only-option-is-to-love-muslim-enemies#comment-22507 america has never had any problem with islam or muslims but its a security policy...in security issues we always mentain one element..ENEMMY...soviate union was the enemy of america and when it collapsed america had to find a new enemy and that became islam..so america can only be friends with islam if it can find another enemy but far as long as it cant islam wiil always be its enemy for security servival - mukiibi hassan Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:24:12 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/column/comment/2281-americas-only-option-is-to-love-muslim-enemies#comment-22431 Rev, Kasibsntes remarks are desirable in today’s world. As he motioned it that “There are groups in Islam (as in Christianity) in conflict as to who represents the purity of the faith and these internal differences sometimes become atrocious”. I have the same opinion with him entirely that these groups can be dreadful. With all religious leaders coming close to Reverends kasibate, we can create a desirable world since religious leaders have influence Thanks Reverend. Issa +256 712 802048 - Issa Kirarira Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:03:02 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/column/comment/2281-americas-only-option-is-to-love-muslim-enemies#comment-22430 True, Rev Kasibante is a true rev. Religious leaders should not only be leaders of the faith they represent, but all the people in their communities and should go beyond and recognize peoples differences and be objective while handling or commenting on issues that affect humanity.This is because theirs is a need to make the world a better place for all. - Issa Kirarira Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:48:28 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/column/comment/2281-americas-only-option-is-to-love-muslim-enemies#comment-22425 Further, Islam and Muslims should not be presented as one stream or undifferentiated religion inspite of the idea of the Umma. There are groups in Islam (as in Christianity) in conflict as to who represents the purity of the faith and these internal differences sometimes become atrocious. It is also easy in certain Islamic countries (as in some African countries) to divert attention to internal problems of governance by constructing conspiracy theories e.g. that stuent protests in Iran are inspired by the Great Satan (America) - Rev Amos Kasibante Thu, 17 Dec 2009 06:43:47 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/column/comment/2281-americas-only-option-is-to-love-muslim-enemies#comment-22424 Certainly, there is Islamophobia in Western countries, which increased after Sept 11 and other bombings in Spain (the train) and London (2005). The roots lie deep, going back to the Crusades. That said, we should not lose sight of good stories of Inter-Faith Dialogue and co-operations between Christians and Muslim in the West. There is an example of this in the English city of Leicester where Sheikh Ibrahim Mogra (Muslim Council of Britain) and the Revd Canon Dr Andrew Wingate (Church of England) have shown exemplary leadership. A point about Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden - this shows the contradictions or changing fortunes of America's foreign policy. But don't leave the Soviet Union out of the troubles of Afghanistan. - Rev Amos Kasibante Thu, 17 Dec 2009 06:28:11 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/column/comment/2281-americas-only-option-is-to-love-muslim-enemies#comment-22410 The crux of the matter for Muslims is; how do you reach out to the general populations of the West and inform them of the true nature of this conflict? This is almost impossible since the elite control the flow of information and worldwide Mulsims are divided and powerless. My fear is that, if this cannot be done, then the self-fullfilling prophecy of the 'clash of civilizations' in inevitable. One way may be to organize with the justice-seeking Westerners who also want to avoid such a clash. however, they're labelled as 'libs' and 'apologists for Islam' in the media but this is the only hope. - David Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:33:09 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/column/comment/2281-americas-only-option-is-to-love-muslim-enemies#comment-22409 My feeling is that this article should have addressed the difference in approach to Islam between the ruling elite and the populace in the Christian West. While the populace tends to be little informed about Islam as a way of life, the elite know very much about this religion, yet still hate it. The reason is that they see Islam as an impediment to unrestricted resources, geopolitical power and their overall strategy of a dominant empire. The likes of Ayaan Hirsi and others are trumpeted by the editors of Time, Newsweek and the political parties to give the populace the impression that Islam is their enemy. - David Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:31:40 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/column/comment/2281-americas-only-option-is-to-love-muslim-enemies#comment-22397 And when my brother Serukuma say again that “Americans must rethink their positions because Islam is an intrinsic part of the world story, and will not go away “That is a good analysis but he should be informed that most Americans are not bothered about Islam and the majority are living in homony with Muslims the problem is few influential people mostly pastors and the media but the position of the government and the majority of the citizens is so good and even better than some Muslim living in Muslim countries. Let us educate the west about Islam that Islam is a system that can assemble the citizens of the world and unites them under divesty. - Issa Kirarira Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:44:46 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/column/comment/2281-americas-only-option-is-to-love-muslim-enemies#comment-22396 On Americans slandering that it is forced Arabisation and Islamasation of black Africans in Darfur-you can add on southern Sudan. These are not the majority of the people of American people -these are leaders making political statements to justify their struggle for resources and this is also common with our African leaders and the president I respect, Museven who has said it several times referring to our brothers in Sudan. Yes, it hurts Muslims but Islam is meant to be the best model on earth. - Issa Kirarira Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:43:08 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/column/comment/2281-americas-only-option-is-to-love-muslim-enemies#comment-22395 But to me, these countries are not targeted because there a Muslim courtiers or because their leaders are Muslims. It is almost certainly because of their natural resources. You wait and see how Uganda will soon be a target of the west if they fall apart with President Museven-yet the Muslims are the minority with the discovery of oil in western Uganda. But still the extremism among sections of Muslims has also given those plunders struggling for resources in their countries a chance to enter under the deception of creating peace. And definitely there will never get empathy while committing suicide in the name of Islam while killing the innocent ones in the markets, coming out of the mosque to praise God. - Issa Kirarira Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:33:55 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/column/comment/2281-americas-only-option-is-to-love-muslim-enemies#comment-22393 True,Mahmood Mamdani got it right when he stressed it that “the big players in the Darfur scuffle is USA which entered the region in 1989 while the central government of Sudan started active participation in 2004. But instead of holding former US presidents accountable, it is Omar el Bashir who is indicted by the International Criminal Court (ICC).”If I were you, I would have added that bush should have been indicted for the dead and still dying children of Iraq. Before the attack of Iraq, Former President of USA Criton wondererd if Bush wanted to rule the whole world. - Issa Kirarira Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:31:36 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/column/comment/2281-americas-only-option-is-to-love-muslim-enemies#comment-22387 Well, Liban, I think a bit different here. What the author meant was that if people stayed in a country that has been ravaged by war, not out of its choice, you will discover that they hold Islam with good practice and are proud of it. I read the same article published elsewhere, by the same author and there are lines accusing US of distorting Somalia and then picking infedils to acknowledge as is Ayaan. But the fact is Somalia is in the news for those things the author writes about. What I do think is that the author didnt intend to hurt Somalia. I loved the writing on Ayaan - Hassan Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:52:39 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/column/comment/2281-americas-only-option-is-to-love-muslim-enemies#comment-22385 “Somalia, a refugee nation, known for pirates” This definition is not only a damnatory but a complete nuisance to read. However, I assume that the writer of this column is sincerely indifferent to Ayan Hirsi Ali as far as knowledge is concerned. In fact Somalia is neither a refugee nation nor its citizens are pirates, but it is you who run out of ideas. Therefore, think twice before you put the pen on the paper. - Liban Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:58:17 +0100