Comments for A desirable government is possible at http://www.independent.co.ug , comment 1 to 23 out of 20 comments http://www.independent.co.ug Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:07:35 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.independent.co.ug/the-last-word/the-last-word/2234-a-desirable-government-is-possible#comment-22826 Many writters say Denis (here above) points to the fact that KCC has failed, indeed they have but this to be understood we need to do a little more to undertsand who is wrong and how to put things right. I would like to know one thing about Kampala and its infrasture, If any, what can these bear? If we looked at the dimensioning of that city and the population it supports today, who can be surprised at all the failures? Why by the way do we look at KCC? Is the education system also failing? I think all the failures are none but the education ministry. Our education system should be problem oriented and not subject oriented. If we did so we would get some answers of the problems we have. - Kamoga Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:44:59 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/the-last-word/the-last-word/2234-a-desirable-government-is-possible#comment-22628 The issue with us Ugandans is we go on about all this corruption and forget our own complicity in this mess, how do we go about daily in the filth that kampala is without demanding K.C.C to account for the monies meant to clean up kampala,how do we even dare point fingers at all this incompetence in government offices yet it is us who pay to have ordinary processes flaunted in our favour.If indeed we are commited to creating some real change in the way things are done in this country we need to take it upon ourselves to do some change before we can even teach the rurals to ask their leaders to account. For starters am consulting on whether i can sue the government and K.C.C for the filth in this city because it is infringing on my right to a healthy ennvironment. - denis Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:45:37 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/the-last-word/the-last-word/2234-a-desirable-government-is-possible#comment-22318 Much as we all find it easy to blem it all on Museven in my the opposition hasnt done enough to point out real faults.Right from the days of Ssemogereno robust alternatives have spruted from the opposition camps. What we need is not necessarily the departuer of Museven but rather the incompetent set up.Whether thts achieveable with our the present opposition is the big question and i think the opposition nedd to go back to drawing board and redesign their approach otherwise theresnt tangible differences as we speak - kamulali Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:12:47 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/the-last-word/the-last-word/2234-a-desirable-government-is-possible#comment-22303 Hi Andrew, it doesnt suprise me when you are mentioned among great thinkers but i would love to put it this way. How about "more articulate" ofcourse you are such a great thinker and i can never stop reading your lovely articles,but have these people really got to know who great thinkers are? Am talking about geniuses. Anyways you remain my Andrew and you will always be - Ronald Ssebunya Sat, 12 Dec 2009 04:53:09 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/the-last-word/the-last-word/2234-a-desirable-government-is-possible#comment-22304 Hi Andrew, it doesnt suprise me when you are mentioned among great thinkers but i would love to put it this way. How about "more articulate" ofcourse you are such a great thinker and i can never stop reading your lovely articles,but have these people really got to know who great thinkers are? Am talking about geniuses. Anyways you remain my Andrew and you will always be - Ronald Ssebunya Sat, 12 Dec 2009 04:53:09 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/the-last-word/the-last-word/2234-a-desirable-government-is-possible#comment-22293 Nelly, What is your definition of a credible publication? In case you have just startes reading about Mwenda's views in his independent magazine, ask those who used to listen to ''Andrew Mwenda Live'' on kfm and his column in Daily monitor those days. They will tell you that Mwenda is a journalist who normally calls a spade so. - Ntegye Asiimwe Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:03:13 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/the-last-word/the-last-word/2234-a-desirable-government-is-possible#comment-22236 This culture of "conspicious consumption" is the life style that the moral guardians should be addressing. It is one the list of the big ethical issues like climate change and even defines "the traditional family", which is a subject of narrow moral discourse in Uganda today i.e. by dwelling on personal morality instead of engaging with the wider socio-economic forces that impact family stability. Unfortunately, moral rhetoric in our country does not extend to life-enhancing structures or provision. The medicines/health thing is particularly crucial because it affects the most vulnerable members of our society. And it directly questions the role/responsibility of government. - Rev Amos Kasibante Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:40:55 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/the-last-word/the-last-word/2234-a-desirable-government-is-possible#comment-22234 How right Mabo is! It is not that we are all equally responsible for failure of service delivery in Uganda or for corruption in general so much so that we are now being listed as one of the most corrupt countries in the world (so we cannot defend ourselves saying that even the developed countries have not eliminated corruption!). We may not all be responsible but "the corruption culture" has caught on like a wild fire or insidious cancer till the entire body fabric is infected. Some have no choice but to buy into it as victims (e.g desperate husband bribes to have his pregnant wife treated for severe malaria). The culture of conspicious consumption, extendind to exhorbitant weddings and now even funerals, which even the moral guardians - the churches - revel in. - Rev Amos Kasibante Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:10:35 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/the-last-word/the-last-word/2234-a-desirable-government-is-possible#comment-22226 Obote advantaged and later messed up; current leadership messed themselves from the mess and propagated it well yet apparently many were beneficiaries of Obote I regime. M7 listened too much to the bush fellows than to the vision of his guerilla campaign; justified by his inactions to severely punish their wrongs when evidenced! A "maybe" alternative to redeem our country is to go federo.One will stunt development their area at your own peril and the people will be on their necks,remember Wakiso? and probably improve on service delivery. Rightly said, even the opposition does not seem have a distinctly/clear marketable strategy to woo the whole populace apart from the usual oneway of getting power! - Russo Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:18:54 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/the-last-word/the-last-word/2234-a-desirable-government-is-possible#comment-22224 Lets all be self accounting & pro active including questioning the wealth our own friend/relatives/tribes mate amass abruptly instead of enjoying their donations/offers in church,mosques,weddings etc coz this encourages/lures other to make "deals"! i It takes two to entangle! If uganda is failing wht makes the independent,monitor,uganda record to prosper yet they are the strongest critic(at time unfair), are they also sharing the booty they claim govt big guys embezzle?. Lets all revist ethics & morals of our faith as Rev Kasibante may suggest if we are to revamp uganda. For God & my country. Alluta continua. - MABO Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:49:16 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/the-last-word/the-last-word/2234-a-desirable-government-is-possible#comment-22223 Some globe trotting to gain allowances! Is it all genine income from their employers? So if we don't tame our fantasy, we have a long way to go. Consider the power crisis,the guys who steal power are known in our villages & towns(e.g welders,millers,domestic) yet at the end of the day the hones but passive clents pay for the thieves! A police officer makes you "pay for police bond and complain that govt pays him miserably! Drugs meant for a health centre are diverted to a known private phamacy and villagers go ahead to "buy" them wth out a wink! - MABO Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:48:42 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/the-last-word/the-last-word/2234-a-desirable-government-is-possible#comment-22222 The percieved wide spread dysfunction of service delivery in uganda is rooted in the sense of "I don't care attitude" exhibited by most of us and continued corruptible influence peddling to satisfy selfish needs. Every victim of corruption in uganda will always find some body to blame but pay very little attention to corrupt practices he/she conducts. Look at all these NGO percieved to be "fighting corruption" and assess their work & impact on a common man? Its an open secret how most elites & non elites will gloss about being involved in "deals". Even in the media most pay kick backs to get Ads and some personalities pay kick backs to be "proped up" & pampered in the media! Look at the luxuries some live in? - MABO Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:47:10 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/the-last-word/the-last-word/2234-a-desirable-government-is-possible#comment-22187 This is a kiss up job. Mwenda never puts blame where it should be placed -- the corrupt power. It is always easy to be critical of the poor and disavantaged, but harder to do the same of the powerful, corrupt and rich. Outspoken yes, intellectual nope. - Ocheto Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:58:12 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/the-last-word/the-last-word/2234-a-desirable-government-is-possible#comment-22185 No matter who is in power unless consititutionally there is federalism so local people look after their own development, there will not be fare-share and fare-leadership or development in many places. All Ugandans need wake up and demand self-determination for themselves in their own areas; that is federalism/federo sadly when people demand this NRM stalwarts think that those who seek such are not nationalists and they try to disfugure them. The medicine is there; M7 playing doctors needs to take that correct diagnosis and cure the illness. Adhiambo is spot on: But woe the beloved country our rulers take no advice! Yet they are naked. - Buhenza Lamech Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:41:53 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/the-last-word/the-last-word/2234-a-desirable-government-is-possible#comment-22183 .Yes Obote's credit was as far as first 4 years due to distribution/decentralised system of governance i.e; federalism. Otherwise how do people in Entebbe, actually who reside in Rwakitura get to know if health Centres in Kanabulemu exist! Impossible. Give a Muhororo oversight development in Karamoja, s/he will create ghost hospital/schools/staff budget intended for kapchora ends in Rwakitura personal development. But will there be the wisdom to accept Federo. No! Why? Because those who are eating double and multiple portions want to continue doing so at the expense of those who are suffering. If only so called cultural leaders would be like His majesty Mutebi II; who is saying..."Let my people GO!" like the biblical Moses. - aghiambo Janet Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:21:35 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/the-last-word/the-last-word/2234-a-desirable-government-is-possible#comment-22182 I am wondering, why Andrew does not put the blame of corruption where it belongs at M7's door. Andrew, lately, you have been putting on a blind eye on the misdeeds of this government and even gone to the extent of defending it indirectly. How can the opposition inform the publics of the short comings of M7's regime when they are boing tear-gassed at every opportunity this government gets?. Previously you wrote, M7 has done a great job economically, that cell phones are being used even in the remotest jungles of Uganda. This happens almsot everywhere in worldwide, does that mean that M7 is responsible for out burst if cell usage everywhere.? How can a head of state orders his security forces to shoot its citiezens and this man remains president? Where is pariament in all this? - Ggomba Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:19:34 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/the-last-word/the-last-word/2234-a-desirable-government-is-possible#comment-22179 The problem in Uganda today is lack of nationalist leaders. What we have is a bunch of selfish-individuals which I have before called predators. Obote, as a selfless, nationalist leader, WILLED during his time to serve Uganda rightly according to the dictate of the constitution. But the predators of today were bushmen and rebels. They have never pretended to be patriots or nationalists rather they have publicly spoken, reflecting what a bushman or a rebel stands for. For instance: ,,When we were fighting you lawyers were hiding under the table" (Muhwezi-during GAVI investigations). So, it is not the opposition that is not yet free that can solve Uganda's problem but the POLITICAL WILL of the top leadership that can bring a positive change. - OJA Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:54:23 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/the-last-word/the-last-word/2234-a-desirable-government-is-possible#comment-22172 Well , what is really true is that black man after emerging from his hut and fields is not yet ready to take on the care of a whole state , tribalism and nepotism dont go with statism , hence our black big men will always care for themselves and the rest for theirselves , alright ? Can you tell any real good thing m7 has shared with the rest of Uganda ? Not even donated medicine or stolen gold from Congo Our donors accept the way we do things because thats the way they want to see things done after all in eyes of many africans are sub humans - Mafta Mingi Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:00:39 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/the-last-word/the-last-word/2234-a-desirable-government-is-possible#comment-22171 I do not agree with Mwenda when he say Museveni offered a better criticism than Besigye has ever done! This is nosense. Mwenda of recent has taken to exonerating Museveni from criticism. Mwenda is now compromised, and soon his publication will loose steam. Observer is now the most credible publication. - Nelly Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:00:26 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/the-last-word/the-last-word/2234-a-desirable-government-is-possible#comment-22165 The voter needs to be aware that because the budget for health has been misappropriated should they fall ill he may die because there are no drugs in the hospitals.If the electorate knew how much corruption impacted on their lives they would not trade their vote for short term gains. This is the message the opposition needs to get across. In a population of thirty million how many people can realistically be bribed with household commodities?Armed with the right information, it is possible for the electorate to make the right choice. - Akhenaten Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:12:46 +0100