Comments for An insider’s peek at Buganda’s politics at http://www.independent.co.ug , comment 1 to 30 out of 20 comments http://www.independent.co.ug Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:51:07 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.independent.co.ug/society/book-review/2168-an-insiders-peek-at-bugandas-politics#comment-39656 the provision of greater autonomy for Buganda and other regions in Uganda will foster greater development and thereby stability for uganda . Even developed countries like The Uk under enlightened leadership of tony Blair found it fit to provide greater autonomy through increasing the devolution of power to Scotland, wales & ireland. Scotland for instance even has its own Parliament and even currency, scottish pound. - otile Sun, 17 Jul 2011 16:28:43 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/society/book-review/2168-an-insiders-peek-at-bugandas-politics#comment-38325 Tebazindwa, I can only blame you for you never quoted verbatim. Let me put it this way, what do you do with a thorn in your finger? A: Cut off your finger or B: find a way of removing the thorn? May I put it this way who do you blame for condemning the colonialists? A: Those who used their mouths? or B: those who used their Heads? Those questions are not designed to be complicated but try to read about countries that thought through the process of getting rid of colonialists and (A) find out why it took them so long (B) what did they do (C) How did they do it (D) where did they end up. When you are finished with that exercise, compare that to those who condemn the colonialists and those who plan/organise/manage and negotiate strategically. Now, keep going. - Isha Fri, 22 Apr 2011 16:16:44 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/society/book-review/2168-an-insiders-peek-at-bugandas-politics#comment-37158 First tell us who colluded with British colonialists to spread imperial rule to other tribes. Temutukooya. - Odhiambo Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:17:54 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/society/book-review/2168-an-insiders-peek-at-bugandas-politics#comment-24517 As an anthropologist I beleive evey tribe is superior in its own way.But our goal now should be unity. Thanks to the reviewer. - saidat Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:37:02 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/society/book-review/2168-an-insiders-peek-at-bugandas-politics#comment-22520 The majority of our Baganda people, even from the views of this forum, continue to miss the point. During 1961/62 they rejected one of their own in favour of Obote. They made the same mistake again in 1981-86 and supported M7 instead of Kayiira. They did it again in 1996. So I wonder why Baganda people can't stand as a group, ally with other groups of Ugandans and take political power with themselves in charge? Why the pattern of supporting other people's political groupings and then later begin asking for A,B,C,D,etc...? Our Baganda people need nothing less than planning, peacefully but cunningly to eventually take charge of the country. Then, only then can they get what they want. - Paul Muwanga Sun, 20 Dec 2009 01:35:46 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/society/book-review/2168-an-insiders-peek-at-bugandas-politics#comment-22368 The buganda conference is on. Adverts everywhere and invitations to all and sundry. However, why is it that when Kings from other tribes in uganda get together or have functions, the king of Buganda never attends. At most he will sent one of his subjects. Moreever, when they have a function in Buganda all kings attend. with such a superiority complex where other tribes are despised i wish your federo well. Better to secede!!!! - harmless Tue, 15 Dec 2009 07:30:54 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/society/book-review/2168-an-insiders-peek-at-bugandas-politics#comment-22344 Tebeezinda si jui tibe...i wholesomely agree if u say baganda are low thinkers;we are not the wisest under the universe but i bet my head we are athousand times wise and thoughtful than ya fellas who came to beamlight of uganda's political,social and economical spheres two decades ago but ya still as dumb as sheep(bababuulire kulya minyira jyokka)! Baganda determined the entry of NRM and it will still determine it's exit,it's only time to tell a story. AWANGAALE SSABASJJA KABAKA,MUSOTTA NAN'TAKWAATA SSIMU MAGULU NNYONDO. - ce' Sun, 13 Dec 2009 21:38:54 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/society/book-review/2168-an-insiders-peek-at-bugandas-politics#comment-22330 Yeah, Buganda should go back to Ituri Forest and leave Banyoro land. They can't cecede within Uganda land. Why can't Bagandas accept the fact that they also came from somewhere else and were given land and some by force by the British. And Bagandas should not think that other tribes come to Kampala because their homes are not developed, not everybody, go to other towns like Mbale, Tororo, and Gulu even with all the problems Gulu has had in the past 40yrs, the people has built it to a the status of a City. Bagandas are not the only people who have other tribes settling in their lands, there are so many Bagandas in Acholi and other areas of Uganda. we need each other to fight the one who is not a Ugandan....M7!! - flora Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:48:19 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/society/book-review/2168-an-insiders-peek-at-bugandas-politics#comment-22276 Mr tibezinda Ugandans like u through ur type of talking drive baganda more to their wish of seceding. Even those baganda like bidandi, who think of Uganda more than Buganda, during the sept riots had to reconsider their loyalty. tell me what did baganda did to people like u to deserve such scorn? Every insult has been thrown at baganda why ? we don’t feel sense of belonging to Uganda bse of u people. When we were invited to join Uganda we came in good faith hoping to stay in harmony with all those who had been Christianized as Ugandan. We welcome every body in Buganda, offered our land on which institutions were built for the betterment of us and our neighbors. Now u turn round to pull us down since obote 1. take care other wise Uganda will be history . - omuganda Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:01:23 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/society/book-review/2168-an-insiders-peek-at-bugandas-politics#comment-22181 Fellow Ugandans how do we ever disentangle ourselves from this uganda tragedy without ever antagonising our other citizens ? - James Lutaaya Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:18:15 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/society/book-review/2168-an-insiders-peek-at-bugandas-politics#comment-22133 i have always suggested that buganda should seced and become a seperate nation from uganda. it is the only way buganda and uganda wil leave in peace. From what i saw during the kayunga riots, and the way many baganda forced non to sing the buganda anthem. words like banamawanga, banyarwanda where every where. the fact that it is impossible for a muganda to speak any other local language, but expects all other tribes to speak luganda all point in this direction. buganda should be left alone and then uganda will survive. A ugandan should need a visa to visit buganda & likewise a muganda needs a visa to visit uganda. period. - harmless Wed, 09 Dec 2009 07:35:57 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/society/book-review/2168-an-insiders-peek-at-bugandas-politics#comment-21870 I am not a muganda but a uGANDAN.simply lets thank the Almighty for the baganda. Also lets celebrate every tribe - ade Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:39:50 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/society/book-review/2168-an-insiders-peek-at-bugandas-politics#comment-21865 East Africa has just resumed last month. But on the 30th June 1953 when the British colonial secretary Oliver Lyttleton made a speach arguing for it in which he said: "as time goes on of still larger measures of unification and federation of the whole of East African territories", Mutesa argued against it in order to protect the Kingom. The British Governor of Uganda at the time Sir Andrew Cohen tried everything through negotiations, but Mutesa could not see what others could clearly see. Sir Cohen had no option but to boot him out of Uganda. These Mengo feudals now stand with one leg in the grave of Mutes and the other leg in East Africa, as East Africa grow biger with one leg in it, they will eventually fall on their bum. - Tibezinda Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:05:39 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/society/book-review/2168-an-insiders-peek-at-bugandas-politics#comment-21864 You were almost there, but i wonder what brought the Ben bit in your mind if it's not ignorant. To you, Ben Kiwanuka seems to be the only political name that hits your brain. But for your information, there were more than one Kiwanuka born, and the one i'm refering to is: Jolly Joe Kiwanuka. If you don't know something ask, you will always get an answer. but dont get persional on somthing you have no knowlage of. - Tibezinda Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:22:13 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/society/book-review/2168-an-insiders-peek-at-bugandas-politics#comment-21850 Does this Tibezinda know what he's talking about? Ben Kiwanuka has never belonged to the UNC as he alleges,Kiwanuka was always a DP!Tibezinda seems to be those characters want to pretend that they're an authority on topics they know nothing about.I would like to advise him to keep on issues concerning whatever rock he crawled from and leave Buganda issues to civilised people. - Musisi Edward Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:01:54 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/society/book-review/2168-an-insiders-peek-at-bugandas-politics#comment-21848 In December 1958, three senior members of the Uganda National Congress; Abu Mayanja, Kiwanuka, and Dr. Kanunka attended the Pan-African Congress in Accra, Ghana. The meeting passed resolutions which amongs other things, recommended that "those African traditional institutions whether political, social or economic which clearly have shown their reactionary character and sordid support of colonialism be condemned. Musazi damaged by Mengo, went against this, from that point his political career went down hill to his last day. What others so soclearly in the 1950s, these Mengo followers can not even see it in 2009. - Tibezinda Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:43:33 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/society/book-review/2168-an-insiders-peek-at-bugandas-politics#comment-21805 Come-on those who do not want federal governance are the ones who need it most. Majority come to Buganda, where they want to stay whilst their own tribal lands remain in the 1800s in terms of development. The Baganda are saying let us ...each tribe begin to work in its area, but together and develop and ensure self-governance. Not only that see Kabaka's government it has even Somalis, Indians and other Tribes in Uganda. Why can we not learn? Why are some people so blind to the reality? So do we really want M7 to continue being King of Uganda, since he has created a hereditary government where now even his concubine Amelia kyambade will also become a Minister? Wake up all Ugandans, Federalism does not mean you cannot live in Buganda if you are an Itesot or Mumasaaba or Nyankore or Langi. It simply means power will be of the local people. If you stay long enough you may become one of the locals in power; just like it is in US or UK and Europe. Aganda Ba-Katonda are right on this one. - Lameka Nyakiiru Sat, 28 Nov 2009 01:46:49 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/society/book-review/2168-an-insiders-peek-at-bugandas-politics#comment-21799 cont...Go do your unbelieving things elsehwere, in Buganda we are a God's people. We take our freedom and give you yours, so what's wrong with that? What's old fashioned about that when divorces are being carried out by the day in the most developed countries? Good and Bad are neither old or new, they are the way they've always been. Don't hide your evil in mordenity. Anyway the point here is not what you believe or want, but what we and our God are about. You don't like it? Well, we can't help you. FREEDOM NOW!! - Twakoowa Fri, 27 Nov 2009 23:13:17 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/society/book-review/2168-an-insiders-peek-at-bugandas-politics#comment-21798 He said, the fear of God is the begining of wisdom. So many people agree with this, all christians. When someone talks about God and his creation and someone comes in talking about everything else but - who is he? Just WHO IS HE? What is his drive? Greed, selfishness,hatred? We are not intrested in anything you have to say, Tebezinda, why? because it's evident your intentions are evil. If not so just answer to this one, was there a God in the beginning and now and for ever? His rule too , right? Our point is, if you don't believe, live and let live. cont.... - Twakoowa Fri, 27 Nov 2009 23:12:37 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/society/book-review/2168-an-insiders-peek-at-bugandas-politics#comment-21792 ...On the other hand, Kiwanuka defended the Cairo office and identified the real issue at stake and said: "Uganda cannot remain an island in a sea of Pan-African and universal nationalism. Our establishment of a national office in Cairo has marked a great era in our struggle. It has broken the chains of isolation, and focused world attention on the seriousness of the Uganda people in our unshakable upsurge for freedom." But to Mengo Baganda feudals, people like Kiwanuka are seen as traters, yet these are the people who would have shon the light on Baganda future long time ago. In short, Baganda are slow thinkers. - Tibezinda Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:40:11 +0100