Comments for 0 at http://www.independent.co.ug , comment 1 to 10 out of 10 comments http://www.independent.co.ug Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:10:15 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.independent.co.ug/component/content/106-myblog/1799-the-kabaka-may-soon-have-no-territory-to-visit-in-buganda#comment-19568 The facts are clear This stoog Kimeze has a house/home in Kawempe. All Peace loving Ugandans should reject the propping up of such so called cultural leaders as M7 defines theme for himself. To respect Kinyor or Kiganda Culture the must be a king with political claut, failing which, M7 is contradictory and shooting himself in the foot. Yet is he had political acummen he would be giving this power to the Kings, not creating the unhistorical titles of Ssabaluli/ssabanyala. M7 would be ensuring that a presidency is central just like the UK primeminister. Instead he is hoodwinking people that Ug is too small. Why cant he compare with Belgium. Or just look around Europe, all the progressive countries have their monarchs. Zionists took us Jews over in Israel, but the truth is there for all to see. This is why M7 is trying hard to take over Baganda, wooing USA just like Zionists did. - Yehuda Yusuf Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:06:11 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/component/content/106-myblog/1799-the-kabaka-may-soon-have-no-territory-to-visit-in-buganda#comment-19517 The article is spot on. Imagine the Omukama of Bunyoro wishing to visit Banyoro (his subjects) in Wakiso and Kabaka threatening violence on him. Would M7 move to defend the Kabaka and even move troops to stop the Omukama from visiting? Let M7 have a sense of fairness. The mass of people who turned up to welcome the Kabaka in Wakiso and Masaka must send a message to the president. There needs to be agreement between the two leaders. A local daily however, reported that one of the reasons the Kabaka has not been willing to talk is that president has been shouting at him. If this is true then it is regretable. No leader should have a right to humiliate another like this! Cool heads must prevail. - Paul Muwanga Wed, 23 Sep 2009 05:33:53 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/component/content/106-myblog/1799-the-kabaka-may-soon-have-no-territory-to-visit-in-buganda#comment-19510 Editor, such writings are too personal and sentimental with no national objective like reconciliation and progress in unity. The origins of our leaders are not material at this time because whether Baganda or Banyankole (bairu), history has it that all are Bantu people who migrated from Central African forests, and settled in Uganda. What we need now as a country, is development irrespective of the origin of the developer so long as he or she has the country at heart. Both the Kabaka and kaguta are still resourceful people and we can benefit a lot from their combined efforts toward this goal. - ndembo Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:37:32 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/component/content/106-myblog/1799-the-kabaka-may-soon-have-no-territory-to-visit-in-buganda#comment-19498 My godness, where do people get all this 'Ink' just one observation to make here, as known already it doesnt suprise me at all ,when you look at Andrew Mwenda's articles M7VS kAGAME, you realise that both men are indeed different. Kagame is a nationalist and the other is an opportunist. the looting in the Congo benefited Rwanda as a country but for poor Ugandans, we all have to some how contribute to paying back $10billion which a few individuals swindled (M7, his brother, Kazini etc) What a disgrace! gievn those roots, the Man is here to steal as much he can, I call upon all ugandans by blood Iteso, bafuruki, karamojango, Nubian, etc to come together all of us to fight together to get rid of this opportunistic individual who used ''Siyasa and buffuni'' in the jungles of Luwero to get us behind him to fight a credible government in 1980. - Moses Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:30:02 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/component/content/106-myblog/1799-the-kabaka-may-soon-have-no-territory-to-visit-in-buganda#comment-19493 Most of these people give his origins as in Rwanda. Some of these people who know Museveni point out the fact that his mother never spoke any Ugandan language fluently in all her life, but only Kinyarwanda, the national language of Rwanda. Many times Museveni has been challenged to prove his Ugandan roots by showing the public any graves and burial sites of any of his grandparents in Uganda but he has always avoided commenting on that. Those challenging him to do so bring up the issue because they know that there is nothing to show and want to put him in an embarassing position. The rumours around Museveni’s origins grew intense in 1992, leading him to appear in army combat uniform before a live national television audience where he listed a number of Runyankore names that he claimed were his. - washington Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:48:20 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/component/content/106-myblog/1799-the-kabaka-may-soon-have-no-territory-to-visit-in-buganda#comment-19492 Gertrude Byanyima referred to Museveni as “Yoseri” rather than “Yoweri” and said those were his original names. It should be noted that during his university days, Museveni used the initial “T” from a name Tibuhaburwa he had given himself. In full, it comes from the Runyankore expression “Obwengye Tibuhaburwa”, meaning intelligence is natural born, not learned. In a thesis which he wrote in 1971 titled Fanon’s theory on violence: its verification in liberated Mozambique, the author gave his byline as “By Yoweri T. Museveni.” Many people from western Uganda hold this same view of Museveni’s Rwandese roots and among them are the Banyarwanda of western Uganda or the Rwandese refugees who lived for forty years in Uganda before returning to Rwanda in 1990. - washington Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:16:34 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/component/content/106-myblog/1799-the-kabaka-may-soon-have-no-territory-to-visit-in-buganda#comment-19489 “Museveni is just like us here. He came here at 16 and it’s us who brought him up. He was never a good academic performer. The cupboard you see there [in a corner of the living room] was Museveni’s library. When you check in it you’ll find his books, a lot on imperialism, with his former names Yoseri Tubuhaburwa.” When Byanyima claimed that Museveni “came here at 16”, it was not so clear whether she meant that Museveni came to Uganda at the age of sixteen or that he first visited the Byanyima home at that age. After she made that claim, some of Gertrude Byanyima’s children Martha, Winnie, Abraham, and Anthony wrote a joint letter where by they apologised to Museveni for any embarassment caused to him by their mother’s claim. But mark you, they did not specifically refute or question the substance of what she said! - washington Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:05:25 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/component/content/106-myblog/1799-the-kabaka-may-soon-have-no-territory-to-visit-in-buganda#comment-19488 Museveni's origin comes from the stigma that Rwandese and Ugandans of Rwandese origin have been subjected to.Yoweri Kayibanda, a.k.a, Rutabasirwa was born around 1943 in Butare, Rwanda. Let him stop lying us that he was born in Uganda! The most informed sources who have known Museveni since his early child hood insist that he and his mother, the late Esteri Kokundeka, came to Uganda from Butare town where he was born around April 1943. One of these sources Gertrude Byanyima the wife of Boniface Byanyima, the national chairman of the Democratic Party says Museveni came to Uganda as a child from Rwanda. He spent part of his early teenage life in the Byanyima family home in Mbarara town in western Uganda. Byanyima used to pay Museveni’s school fees or at least part of it. Let him deny it! One time when she was speaking to party supporters at her home in Mbarara on 2 March, 1996, Mrs. Byanyima said: - washington Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:02:03 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/component/content/106-myblog/1799-the-kabaka-may-soon-have-no-territory-to-visit-in-buganda#comment-19485 the dictator was shaken , but kabaka is firm uganda will be hear after m7 , what is worrying is that why repeat of 1966 ? something realy wrong - Major Kikompola Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:25:06 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/component/content/106-myblog/1799-the-kabaka-may-soon-have-no-territory-to-visit-in-buganda#comment-19484 Museveni hates anyone more popular than him. That’s where the real problem is. Stating that Kabaka's life would be in danger under the banyala is a scapegoat. Just imagine if we had two vehicles one driver each and one passenger each. And passengers in each vehicle would be Museveni and Kabaka. No escort starting from Kampala to Kayunga. Which vehicle with which passenger would get to kayunga? Who needs more security? - watcher Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:18:04 +0100