Comments for 0 at http://www.independent.co.ug , comment 1 to 15 out of 15 comments http://www.independent.co.ug Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:04:32 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.independent.co.ug/component/content/106-myblog/1748-for-the-international-audience-the-kampala-riots-explained#comment-31302 Hey, just looking around some blogs, seems a pretty nice platform you are using. I’m currently using WordPress for a few of my sites but looking to change one of them over to a platform similar to yours as a trial run. Anything in particular you would recommend about it? - Figure Retoriche | Figure Retoriche Fri, 08 Oct 2010 01:26:19 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/component/content/106-myblog/1748-for-the-international-audience-the-kampala-riots-explained#comment-19423 Omuzinyiomulungi, you have just described a very interesting but rather insightful issue as far as world dominant politicians are concerned. What you have not yet done though is to put it in context of what is happening. - Jude Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:09:31 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/component/content/106-myblog/1748-for-the-international-audience-the-kampala-riots-explained#comment-19233 People, people read your history the federal issue was resolved at the Lancaster conferece when the colonial powers gave Buganda federated stus, Obote was there too, he agreed to it. Just like Museveni is trying to hoodwink the Nation now denying there has never been a Banyala king/ryalty until Kimeze who is likely to go the same way Bokasa of CAR went. - sarambaramba Bohny Sat, 12 Sep 2009 02:33:55 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/component/content/106-myblog/1748-for-the-international-audience-the-kampala-riots-explained#comment-19222 Apparently what Mengo wants is for the Kabaka to own his security forces , collect taxes, etc - all the things independent and sovereign states - like Uganda - do. Something similar to having a Buganda Monarchy within a Uganda Democracy. "Federo" does not mean a thing until it is formally promulgated. If it were defined there wouldn't be such confusion, acrimony, and conflict between the central government and mengo. Lule was a titular head of the rebellion. Museveni is the one who openly vowed during the 1980 campaigns he was taking his UPM party to the bush to fight Obote. Strategically to win the crucial Baganda support Museveni had to front Lule, a Muganda, just as Nyerere had reluctantly accepted to front him in UNLF in the war to remove Idi Amin. Lule never had any political base; even Semwogerere beat him to the leadership of DP. To say Prof. Lule was the real leader of the rebellion would be similar to saying Prof. Ojok was the real leader of Alice Lakwena rebellion. - Ocheto Sat, 12 Sep 2009 00:36:17 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/component/content/106-myblog/1748-for-the-international-audience-the-kampala-riots-explained#comment-19196 Moses - I've read your submission and while you are entitled to your opinion it seems the only fact you are disputing is the role of the Kabaka in the federo system. I have spoken to many within Mengo who would like the Kabaka to have executive powers within federo, which I why I made the reference to a monarchical element. At no point did I say that you are required to get permission before touring an area either. - Joe P Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:45:22 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/component/content/106-myblog/1748-for-the-international-audience-the-kampala-riots-explained#comment-19193 Lastly, Kayunga is a district of Buganda (see the Uganda constitution) but with multi-cultural people. There has never been such conflict. Why don’t you find out, why now? From time memorial, Buganda’s hospitality is unmeasured. Baganda is the largest group in Kayunga and it lives with other group such as: Basoga, Bagisu, Baruli, Iteso, Japadhola, Kuku, Bugwere, Banyole, Banyala and other ethnic groups. - Okello Moses Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:35:28 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/component/content/106-myblog/1748-for-the-international-audience-the-kampala-riots-explained#comment-19192 Mwenda Check your history Banyala are a subtribe if anything, you haveinsinuated they have a king? all Uganda history records until M7 proped-up a UPDF army captain and made him a king for a small group known as Banyala Cultural Association, so that he (M7) could divide Buganda. The family of this army man have all disowned his aspirations to be royalty and that they have never been anything but part of Baganda as a subtribe. I hope this helps our international readers - sarambaramba Bohny Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:35:26 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/component/content/106-myblog/1748-for-the-international-audience-the-kampala-riots-explained#comment-19191 Considering your names I would only forgive you for once, because if you knew the Ugandan constitution there is no such provision to seek permission when you’re touring your area. Kabaka has a constitution right and moreover, this was not the first time the Kabaka was visiting Kayunga. Yes, Kabaka is a cultural leader who by the constitution not allowed engaging in politics, but has a right to his belongings. The constitution doesn’t strip off his rights to own property. He is a custodian of Buganda land that is the reason why he called Ssabattaka. Unless you have to seek permission from your neighbour to get to your garden then I will accept what you’re trying to write. His Majesty Kabaka Ronald Muwenda Mutebi II has been mobilising people to get immunised, why not refused then. Cont....... - Okello Moses Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:33:56 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/component/content/106-myblog/1748-for-the-international-audience-the-kampala-riots-explained#comment-19186 The war itself was waged in Buganda and many Baganda died in the fighting than any other tribe in Uganda. You’re bound to be considered senile if you don’t such information. To inform you Museveni was unpopular and even his UPM party got only one seat in parliament. It was Dr Kiyonga, Museveni lost to the current Foreign Minister Sam Kutesa in the 1980 elections. Museveni went to the bush to spill blood on pretext of stolen/rigged election. Was it Museveni’s votes stolen? Get things right first before exposing your ignorance. You further grieve over: “The unrest led to government officials advising the Kabaka against visiting the region as the police could not guarantee his safety.”cont... - Okello Moses Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:16:46 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/component/content/106-myblog/1748-for-the-international-audience-the-kampala-riots-explained#comment-19184 You went to inform that; “The Kabaka is the King of the powerful Baganda tribe and was reinstated by President Museveni in 1993, after having been abolished by Milton Obote in 1966. Museveni brought back the traditional kingdoms on the understanding that they would play a strictly cultural, and not political, role. Thanks for being Museveni’s propagandist. You seem have little knowledge of how Museveni came to power. To remind you, Museveni was just a deputy leader of the Movement chairman who happened to be Prof. Yusuf Kironde Lule. That is how the army that had almost the biggest Baganda percentage. Museveni was not even known anywhere and at the time couldn’t convince school leavers to join the armed struggle. cont...... - Okello Moses Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:15:18 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/component/content/106-myblog/1748-for-the-international-audience-the-kampala-riots-explained#comment-19183 I would not expect Joe Powell to be cheap like melons. You tried to spin you writing to convince the read what you seem to have little knowledge. You exhibited the highest ignorance of the century; FEDERO is a word normally pronounced by Baganda to mean Federalism. Its not attached to monarch as you wanted us to believe. That is a sign of you swallow minded for not taking time to research before writing to the public. Had you researched first you would have exhibited your ignorance in the public. Pick a lesson from here: What Buganda wants is not a ‘monarchical-federal hybrid’. Buganda wants Federalism which is a system where the executive power, functions and freedoms are constitutionally and the divided up between the centre and the regions. - Okello Moses Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:14:08 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/component/content/106-myblog/1748-for-the-international-audience-the-kampala-riots-explained#comment-19175 All you people who are blaming Buganda for what is going on you need to understand that M7 is 100% responsible. Why should the gov. protect the Banyaala who are hell bent on causing violance if the Kabaka goes to Bugerere? This has been widely reported that, the Banyaala are ready to cause violance if Kabaka goes there. So if I threaten to cause violance, am I going to be protected by the Police? You have not heard Mengo threaten violance but the Banyaala are being protected by the police? The Kabaka has a right to go anywhre in Uganda and if Sabanyaala wants to go to kampala and the baganda threaten violance, the police should protect them and fight Sabanyaala's people instead. The police is getting its orders from M7 and you pepole get off buganda's back. Vedio tape everything going on using your cell phone and send them to CNN and BBC. I will give you their websites soon. - Ggomba Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:35:11 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/component/content/106-myblog/1748-for-the-international-audience-the-kampala-riots-explained#comment-19168 Thanks for the extra info Mwesigye. - Joe P Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:49:59 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/component/content/106-myblog/1748-for-the-international-audience-the-kampala-riots-explained#comment-19166 Thanks Joe for the update. I'm obliged to add more information for clarity. You mentioned the Katikkiro is a Prime Minister of Buganda's Parliament, I have to clarify that Katikiro is the Prime Minister of the Kingdom much as there is a parliamentary institution called Lukiiko. Though the Katikkiro is a member, it is headed by a Speaker. Katikiro heads the government which has ministers charged with different duties. The Lukiiko includes these ministers and other cultural leaders drawn from the Kingdom. The Kabaka (King) appoints the Prime Minister (Katikkiro) and through him names the ministers. While the Kabaka remains behind the scenes and appears in the public on occasion or ceremony, the Katikkiro carries out most of the administrative duties and represents the Kingdom, its interests and the Kabaka in most of the public fora..etc. - Mwesigye Gumisiriza Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:40:26 +0100 http://www.independent.co.ug/component/content/106-myblog/1748-for-the-international-audience-the-kampala-riots-explained#comment-19160 Thanks for the information. I have been trying to get some info on what is happening these days in Kampala. People stay safe! - Kim Elverding Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:05:49 +0100